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Posted by Azn2296 on 02-14-2003 10:38 PM:

Is War Ever Justified?

If not, what are other ways, more succesful ways, two or more countries can resolve their differences... <yah this is for my essay need some help>

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 02-14-2003 11:08 PM:

in some cases it's sort of justified. But it never really is on an ethical level i think ultimately ever. It can be rationalized though. But of course if we were to consider everything animalistically, of course it's justified! everything is.

Beyond the staple center you can see america
with its tired poor avenging disgrace
peaceful loving youth against the brutality
of plastic existence

pushing little children with the fully automatics
they like to push the weak around. (yeah i'm listening to that right now and just felt like typing in the lyrics cause they seem applicable)

sometimes it's just....

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Posted by Alchemist on 02-14-2003 11:21 PM:

What about assassinations vs. war?

Posted by PsychoSnowman on 02-15-2003 12:28 AM:

hmm well assassination is just an antagonized murder with a purpose i think. Same thing, in war there is a lot of killing, or assassinating, or murdering, same thing.

I don't think it's wrong to kill or assassinate someone, but i don't think right and wrong can be used in discourse either so i shouldn't say that i was just saying that in case someone asked me. Sure, ethically, it's bad, but i dont' care ultimately,... it's all artificial. War can be justified or not justified depending on how you think. My stance is that it's justified because it's just like organized animalism. It's not right or wrong, but it's justified in the sense of survival. We kill animals, why not humans? I don't think it's just wrong to kill anyone, though it can be mean, bad, unfair, repulsive or whatever, but it's not wrong.

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Posted by aznkid1008 on 02-15-2003 01:26 AM:

yea but a war is a political thing. soldiers fighting in the war r just tryin 2 defend their lives and their fellow person next to them. but murder is killing for a gain or just ur avg crazy person pushed to the edge.

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Posted by Azn2296 on 02-15-2003 04:17 AM:

Is War Ever Unjustified?

pls help thanx

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Posted by TyGer STyLe on 02-15-2003 08:14 AM:

wrong forum man...

moved to debate...

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 02-15-2003 06:40 PM:

defending one self in the form of killing isn't somehow a gain?

"a murder is a murder is a murder"

it really is.

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Posted by aznkid1008 on 02-15-2003 10:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
defending one self in the form of killing isn't somehow a gain?

"a murder is a murder is a murder"

it really is.

ok maybe i need a different example. a soldier in war is completely different to ur usual murderer. a soldier fights a soldier for survival for themselves, fellow countrymen, and country. murders attack civilians for watever their motives r. soldiers r ordered to go fight murderers do it on their own will. that clear up anythin?

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Posted by ajy on 02-16-2003 11:50 PM:

dont waste 2 threads, supermod/mod merge them

Posted by PsychoSnowman on 02-16-2003 11:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by AjY 2k
dont waste 2 threads, supermod/mod merge them


done

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Posted by Alchemist on 02-17-2003 02:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by aznkid1008
yea but a war is a political thing. soldiers fighting in the war r just tryin 2 defend their lives and their fellow person next to them. but murder is killing for a gain or just ur avg crazy person pushed to the edge.


I also don't think it's either right and wrong but if the choice was between these, I think that instead of killing some 17 yr. old who doesn't really know what's going on killing the person giving the orders and antagonizing other countries(ex.).
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