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Posted by AzNmAgE on 02-18-2003 05:37 AM:

What War?!

do u guys think this war in iraq (or who ever is against us, i cant tell nemore) will happen? yay or nay? and are you worried(preparing) for it???

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Posted by tm11 on 02-18-2003 07:34 AM:

I think an attack on Iraq on behalf of the United States is likely, and if it occurs I think it will be unilateral action as well, which isn't good either.
I'm not sure what kind of war it will be, whether it will be solely for the purpose of disarming Iraq, or whether it will turn into a resource war. The majority of liberal media raises many valid points about how one of ulterior reasons behind the war the is that it seems to be about oil and how the U.S. wants to control oil reserves in the Middle East, but most conservatives deny this, and say that that argument is unfounded and that the "war on Iraq" is only to disarm Iraq of its weapons. Others point to other reasons relating to the oil, and mainly the money that comes from it. Obviously those aren't the only motives for attacking Iraq though.

I disagree with a couple of the ways the Bush administration is trying to justify this potential war, one of them being the connection between Iraq and Osama Bin Laden. In Bin Laden's last release, he urged Iraqi people to go against their secular/socialist (I forgot which word exactly) leader, yet in most news reports this part was conveniently left out, and Colin Powell, in his appearances on Sunday news shows uses the video to demonstrate the link between Saddam and Osama, and I thought that was kind of lame. Maybe he knows something most people don't know, or he wants to easily justify this attack by playing on fears of the American Public. I don't know.

I was also shown an article the a few weeks ago, pointing out how in the past two centuries or so, every single time a country tried to justify attacking another country they used fears of "terrorism" or attacks on the home country by various third parties or nations. And all of a sudden, we're up to orange.

edit: i wasn't sure of this, but now am, the initial phase of the attack's underway. Special forces were sent in to encircle baghdad before aerial attacks began. Here we go.

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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 02-18-2003 07:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by tm11
edit: i wasn't sure of this, but now am, the initial phase of the attack's underway. Special forces were sent in to encircle baghdad before aerial attacks began. Here we go.


yep, spec ops teams are already in iraq preparing to "soften up the orange."

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Posted by Alchemist on 02-18-2003 02:41 PM:

A member of the Cadre who trained us at the YPA is going to iraq.


Posted by Alchemist on 02-18-2003 02:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tm11
I think an attack on Iraq on behalf of the United States is likely, and if it occurs I think it will be unilateral action as well, which isn't good either.
I'm not sure what kind of war it will be, whether it will be solely for the purpose of disarming Iraq, or whether it will turn into a resource war. The majority of liberal media raises many valid points about how one of ulterior reasons behind the war the is that it seems to be about oil and how the U.S.



From this information it seems as if there aren't any ulterior reasons, everything's just there. An attack on Iraq would kill 2 birds with one stone, preserve the US's ability to project world power and economic gain as well. But then again I'm just a kid and I'm not sure either. (I agree with the second part of your post as well)


Posted by ajy on 02-18-2003 02:50 PM:

we should be also concerned with north korea. One of George Bush' reasons for attacking Iraq is disarming their weapons of destruction. And yet all the time we've been also hearing abot North Korea saying that they may have nuclear bombs. Wouldnt they be a similiar threatto us also? I think one of the reasons for attacking iraq, and isnt directly said, is to get back at any middle eastern country even closely related to osama bin laden, and al qaeda.


Posted by .aS.|5p!7f!|23 on 02-18-2003 02:58 PM:

with korea we arent really provoking them to attack us and by doing that yes they are getting stronger but we are also dealing with a greater threat. by getting rid of threat now(iraq), we will be able to concentrate on korea and have our full attention over there. i know its not the best idea, but i see where theyre coming from.


Posted by Klumzy on 02-21-2003 09:42 AM:

yah i think it prolly will happen but most likely will have little effect here in the USA because the war will be fough in iraq... unless those dumbasses think killing innocent civilians here will get them many wifes in heaven

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