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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 12-15-2002 01:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by daNNy LuV 1TYM
i find that to be very true. mai skool is very competitive and there's prolly the most cheating goin on in the honors/AP classes


however the truly smart ones don't need to cheat at all.

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Posted by daNNy LuV 1TYM on 12-17-2002 12:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
however the truly smart ones don't need to cheat at all.

haha not everyone in those classes are geniuses

Posted by inkstand on 12-20-2002 09:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
however the truly smart ones don't need to cheat at all.


I don't think that's true either. There are lots of smart people in the world, and I'd say that 99% of students out there have cheated, if not 100%. Cheating isn't an indication of how smart you are. It could just be that you're looking for a leg up on the competition, or you care so much about perfection that you try to give yourself every advantage possible. In any case, I think what I'm getting at, is cheating isn't always an act of necessity.

Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 12-20-2002 11:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by inkstand
In any case, I think what I'm getting at, is cheating isn't always an act of necessity.


hmm..perhaps you were confused about my previous statement- the "need" taken with the rest of my statement does not imply neccesity.

In any case, your argument strengthens mine in that those who succumb to cheating, are doing so out of choice, not because they must. In that case, they do not deserve to succeed.

99% of all students in the world, is stil a VERY large figure. And then take into consideration how many idiots there are in the world, and the numbers make sense.

In my scenario, the idiots won't suceed anyways, and those who lack the willpower to make the grade on their own shouldn't suceed either.

quote:
Cheating isn't an indication of how smart you are

of course it isn't, whats your point.

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Posted by inkstand on 12-21-2002 01:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter


quote:
Cheating isn't an indication of how smart you are


of course it isn't, whats your point.


Based on what you wrote, that 'the truly smart ones' don't need to cheat, you implied that cheating is indicative of idiocy. Yet you contradict yourself here.

And I really don't see how what I wrote strengthens your argument.

Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 12-21-2002 02:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by inkstand

you implied that cheating is indicative of idiocy. [/B]


under normal circumstances, you would be correct that I contradicted myself. However, if you look at the context, I was talking about the "competitive (which many equate to "smart")" people. In this respect, i was referencing a scale of smartness among the most competitive people.

Anyways, it does. Go read it again.

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Posted by inkstand on 12-21-2002 03:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
under normal circumstances, you would be correct that I contradicted myself. However, if you look at the context, I was talking about the "competitive (which many equate to "smart")" people. In this respect, i was referencing a scale of smartness among the most competitive people.

Anyways, it does. Go read it again.


Your "scale" is highly subjective and what you're saying doesn't prove much at all.

I've obviously read what you have to say, and I don't see how it "strengthens" you're argument. Going to "read it again" isn't going to make it any clearer.

Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 12-21-2002 04:01 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by inkstand
Your "scale" is highly subjective


of course it is

quote:
Originally posted by inkstand
I've obviously read what you have to say, and I don't see how it "strengthens" you're argument. Going to "read it again" isn't going to make it any clearer


sure it will

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