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Posted by LiL_HyeSung on 09-21-2002 02:54 PM:

ok then..well said..
i'm going for a cry..

member bashing..........
>.<
i have feelings too...
esp when u guys call me a "slut and Whore"
omg.....
its my first time......gosh and u guys talk as if i've fucked every guy on my street
and dont say i will ... coz i wont

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Posted by saranghae on 09-21-2002 09:09 PM:

we didn't mean to bash u... but we juss wanted to let u knoe sex at 13 isn't good... i knoe its your life and everything... but think about it... is that wut u really want? we juss hope the best for u.


Posted by psyTeK ver. 2.0 on 09-22-2002 01:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LiL_HyeSung
ok then..well said..
i'm going for a cry..

member bashing..........
>.<
i have feelings too...
esp when u guys call me a "slut and Whore"
omg.....
its my first time......gosh and u guys talk as if i've fucked every guy on my street
and dont say i will ... coz i wont



you have feelings too? well cry me a river... because i personally don't care. if you came here wanting support for the irrational decisions your making in life, then you definitely came to the wrong place. how can we possibly look upon you, a girl that's only 13 years old, and nod approvingly as you go off to mess around in things you weren't meant to get involved in at such a young age? you may think to yourself that this is only your first time, but believe me. everytime you do it from here on out, you will start to care less and less about the number of individuals you have had sexual relations with.

well whatever, let me just say one thing to you. I would NEVER marry a girl if i found out she WILLINGLY lost her virginity at such a young age. most respectable men wouldn't. i seriously think it's safe to say that respectable men go for girls that have enough common sense in them to avoid making bad decisions like this one.

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Posted by UnisMuiMui on 09-22-2002 05:01 AM:

psytek, could u please talk to my OLDER sister about this sex issue? please slap some sense into her. she's almost 19 but acts like a frikkin 14 year old. she's a frikkin slut.

but newayz....... wow... alot has been said... i wont repeat wat others said.

but as for lil_hyesung, LIVE AND LEARN. learn from the people who are older... take their advice. but if not, LIVE AND LEARN. if u make a mistake and regret it, i hope u learn from it. but dun mind us for saying "i told u so" if anything goes wrong.

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Posted by Ladi Jay on 09-23-2002 12:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by LiL_HyeSung
ok then..well said..
i'm going for a cry..

member bashing..........
>.<
i have feelings too...
esp when u guys call me a "slut and Whore"
omg.....
its my first time......gosh and u guys talk as if i've fucked every guy on my street
and dont say i will ... coz i wont



bah... don't listen to people who obviously don't know you tell you that you're a slut or whore... juss take what the say into consideration... I found some of their posts to be extremely rude and mean too... don't worry lil hyesung... juss take their advice... save your virginity until you get older... blah blah blah (I don't wanna repeat what they said)

psytek... if you don't mind... quit being so fucking mean. You're such a sadist. She's a little girl who needs to know the truth, and I agree with what you said, buh damn, don't be so harsh.


Posted by merc on 09-23-2002 03:58 PM:

alright, im going to try not to be too caustic.
First off, if your going to post such a controversial topic, expect some bashing.
People will give you advice, and others will bash.
whoever called you a "slut and whore"...you know that's not right and they are just being rude. This is not 1st grade, ignore them.
So if you came here for advice, ignore the rude comments, the bashing, take what you came for.

My advice...?
i honestly think you should wait.
it may seem right to you now, but people change, your mindset will change if you wait.

gl.

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Posted by WhiteLee on 09-23-2002 07:59 PM:

wow. didn't know all this was goin' on. sorry mods!
anyway, here's my opinion, be it wrong, late, or unread:
No one knows when they're truly ready. Even if you think you are, you most likely are not.
All that stuff of ppl calling you a "slut" and a "whore" would/will happen. WE are not calling you that. we're saying that ppl (friends, peers, whatever) probably would.
Sex at a young age is disgusting in my opinion. it's like child porn.
You've just been declared a teen and now you go and lose your viriginity? hmmm...where's the maturity and reasoning?
anyway, all this stuff has been said multiple times. Just addin' to the pile.
Personally, I'm waiting. Unwanted pregnancy, STDs, shame, I don't want it.
People always forget what comes along with sex. Not just an orgasm. possibly other things too, more than just phyiscal. Emotional pain, a false sense of pride, the brand of "slut" across your forehead, and the thought that you won't have anything to actually celebrate on your honeymoon.
It's not worth a little chemical reaction in the long run.

Anyway, I agree with what the others said.
I know you're gone, but what the hell!

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Posted by KoreanDevil on 09-24-2002 12:40 AM:

.....wow 9.. thats kind of early??....

did you even know what to do??


Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-24-2002 01:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ladi Jay
psytek... You're such a sadist. .


sadism means you get sexual pleasure from cruelty...i doubt he gets sexual pleasure from this

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Posted by seung ju on 09-24-2002 01:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter


sadism means you get sexual pleasure from cruelty...i doubt he gets sexual pleasure from this


eh, you never know, japs like to watch ppl eat shit.

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Posted by Chinezaznboi on 09-24-2002 01:54 AM:

o....


Posted by TyGer STyLe on 09-24-2002 03:33 AM:

oh geebus... is this damn thread still going on??? dang... i think this subject needs to be dropped... me thinks its been over anylized

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Posted by KoreanDevil on 09-24-2002 03:55 AM:

HAHAHA...i soooooo agree with that.....

so many people are now repeating the same thing


Posted by Ladi Jay on 09-24-2002 04:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter


sadism means you get sexual pleasure from cruelty...i doubt he gets sexual pleasure from this



no vic.. it does not mean you get sexual pleasure... it means that you get pleasure from mistreating others... like, you enjoy mistreating others...doi!


Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-24-2002 04:11 AM:

ah but if you understand the roots of the word you would realize that it has the sexual connotation.

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Posted by Ladi Jay on 09-24-2002 04:22 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
ah but if you understand the roots of the word you would realize that it has the sexual connotation.


does it matter that much??? blah... my definition of sadist is those who get pleasure by mistreating others... not sexual pleasure


Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-24-2002 04:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ladi Jay
does it matter that much???


It really does. A hint in one direction could change the whole meaning of the phrase or sentence it is contained in, that is why I was puzzled at your choice of words.
The roots of Sadism come from the person and the works of the Marquis de Sade. He was reknown for holding orgies, and capturing women, then torturing and flogging them, experimenting with different tortures, and finally killing them. He believed that this wasthe only method of deriving sexual pleasure.

His works, of which there are several, reflect his disgusting preferences. You can probably find them in a bookstore or maybe a library, but usually it would probably not be permitted, due to its heavy adult/horror nature. :huh:

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Posted by Ladi Jay on 09-24-2002 04:36 AM:

well well, I learned something new tonight! thanks for the history lesson vic! seriously, I'm gonna go to my english teacher and tell her!


Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-24-2002 04:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ladi Jay
thanks vic! seriously, I'm gonna go to my english teacher and tell her!


no need to thank me we are all here to educate each other

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Posted by psyTeK ver. 2.0 on 09-24-2002 10:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ladi Jay

psytek... if you don't mind... quit being so fucking mean. You're such a sadist. She's a little girl who needs to know the truth, and I agree with what you said, buh damn, don't be so harsh.



don't even begin to start saying crap like that to me. i know perfectly well what kind of tone accompanies my suggestions and criticism towards the people i direct them to. it's different for every person, and i strongly felt this girl in particular needed a harsh dose of reality. are you gonna tell me other wise? well let's see.
i COULD have just said, "hey kiddo, i really think its not a good idea to have sex at such a young age... just think about it a little, ok?... because it's just a bad thing to do!".
i'm pretty sure that's NOT what she needs, however. she needs to face the facts, and face it in a harsh way, because the situation we see her in is so grave and dangerous. if she keeps constantly making bad decisions like this, there WON'T be people there in real life to comfort her and talk sweetly to her like there are on these forums. i feel my reply demonstrates the nature in which she's going to be criticized and bashed on if she doesn't get her act together, and that's why i attached such a harsh tone in the message i hoped to get across to her.

and one last thing, "lady jay". you better not ever give me crap again about me being some kind of sadist who doesn't have anything better to do than to be "mean" to people. i've told you before why i say the things i do, so i WON'T repeat myself again for you. you should have noticed how i've gotten off your case completely after i said what i needed to say to you in that one thread of yours, and you know i haven't mentioned you once or even quoted a single thing you've said since then. i don't want to concern myself with you any longer because i offered you my criticism and you didn't accept it. FINE, i can live with that. but i will NOT tolerate your replies about me this long after that whole incident took place when im sure most of us know there are no motives behind them except to simply TRY (key word TRY) to make me look bad because you still have beef with me. next time, PM me your pointless attempts to disparage me instead of bringing them into the middle of such important topics like this one.

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