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Posted by huby40 on 07-06-2002 01:05 AM:

a thought on war

animals fight with each other to establish that they are the best for breeding. they are the strongest, smartest, and most agile of the other animals and that is what makes them win fights. so they can pass the best genes to the next generation.

but war is different. war is interesting. the best dont survive in war, the best are sent to the front lines and killed. while the weak and useless and disabled stay at the home front, so the weaker survive. the theory of survival of the fittest is completely reversed.

humans seem to be an exception to everything.

Posted by Alchemist on 07-09-2002 03:08 AM:

Oh yeah, like how human nature is messed up. *gunshots and sounds of people fighting* "Oh let's go see whats going on"

"whoa, this smells wierd check it out" *everyone smells it*

"That one man is dead, we must risk the lives of 70million men to retrieve the body"

Posted by aznkid1008 on 07-09-2002 03:41 AM:

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Originally posted by Alchemist
Oh yeah, like how human nature is messed up. *gunshots and sounds of people fighting* "Oh let's go see whats going on"

"whoa, this smells wierd check it out" *everyone smells it*

"That one man is dead, we must risk the lives of 70million men to retrieve the body"

HEY NO MAN GETS LEFT BEHIND! lolz
if u ask me war is created by politics therefore should be ended wit those freakin lazy weak politics in a fight. put them in a cage and throw in a knife put it on HBO and u make some cash, some fun, and u dont need 2 send 100 million people 2 war. war is always created by politics but ended by death. of course politics makes a treaty but truely death ends the war if u really think about it.

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Posted by tea on 07-09-2002 05:58 AM:

using violence to obtain peace...hmm

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Posted by Nojeel on 07-11-2002 05:31 AM:

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using violence to obtain peace...hmm

i agree..very interesting..doesn't really make alot of sense to me.. all i can say is.. humans= war.. as long as people exist within society... corruption, violence, hate will always be there...

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Posted by tea on 07-11-2002 05:41 AM:

hate exists because of differences in opinions, cultures, societies. racism would not exist if white people never met people other than white people. people start conflicts because of things they cant understand, so they are not used to things. war is just a bunch of people who want to prove that their opinions are right. they do this by "flexing their muscles" and itimitading one another...showing each other who has the big guns, even if it does involve civilian casualties

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Posted by aznkid1008 on 07-11-2002 06:20 PM:

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using violence to obtain peace...hmm

well thats the logic of the tali-bum isnt it a HOLY WAR?!?!
BS how could a war be holy if god doesnt like war?!?!?! gotta be bsin wit me this guys hav ur towels on to tite

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Posted by huby40 on 07-11-2002 08:09 PM:

god kinda did command people to start wars in his favor (thats what it says in the bible anyway). you know, everything with david, and that whole promised land thing with jerhico....

Posted by PsychoSnowman on 07-13-2002 01:39 AM:

the difference between humans and animals is this: Animals are all the same, humans are not. We are naturally dividing into different classifications by choice and nature and thus we live in a multi-layered society. Animals on the other hand...live on one layer, the same one that all animals (i'm thinking of lions, so for the other animals it doesn't apply to, doesn't matter, you get the idea). Humans are more like the morlock society of the Time Machine by HG Wells...humans are now born where they specialize in certain jobs and tasks in which they perform them and live through depending on others of different tasks to fill the gap they cannot perform. Animals do everything themselves, humans work together (yeah, killer whales and such do too, but not as a huge race, only in groups). I could go on, but i won't heh.

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Posted by aznkid1008 on 07-13-2002 03:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by huby40
god kinda did command people to start wars in his favor (thats what it says in the bible anyway). you know, everything with david, and that whole promised land thing with jerhico....

ok then explain the commandment that says u shall not kill or somethin like that?

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Posted by huby40 on 07-13-2002 03:54 AM:

explain why Moses kept his hands up to please God in order to win his battle

explain why the walls of jerhico fell down for the isrealites to invade

explain why david with won so many wars with God on his side

Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 07-13-2002 05:41 AM:

Re: a thought on war

quote:
Originally posted by huby40

but war is different. war is interesting. the best dont survive in war, the best are sent to the front lines and killed. while the weak and useless and disabled stay at the home front, so the weaker survive. the theory of survival of the fittest is completely reversed.

humans seem to be an exception to everything.


not neccesarily true. The smartest stay at home. Whether they are fit or not depends on the case.

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Posted by aznkid1008 on 07-13-2002 03:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by huby40
explain why Moses kept his hands up to please God in order to win his battle

explain why the walls of jerhico fell down for the isrealites to invade

explain why david with won so many wars with God on his side

cause god needed someone to do his dirty work

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 07-13-2002 06:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by huby40
explain why Moses kept his hands up to please God in order to win his battle

explain why the walls of jerhico fell down for the isrealites to invade

explain why david with won so many wars with God on his side


simple. It's all fiction .

note: this isn't meant to start something big, so please don't blow it up. If parts are based on history then i don't care, it's historical fiction. haha only on JSL must i put a note/disclaimer at the end. jp though, JSL is cool.

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Posted by huby40 on 07-13-2002 10:55 PM:

gg psychosnowman wins.

Posted by aznkid1008 on 07-13-2002 11:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by huby40
gg psychosnowman wins.

who died and made u judge

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Posted by MellowYellow on 07-14-2002 12:37 AM:

aww damn happened in here... lol... war with words... lol.. except the only thing dying is ... pride... lmao

there is no peace.... never can there be world peace... ppl are just too different... but that's fine with me... with out competition we would never advance... war creates some cool shiet... like sonar and stuff like that.. which in turn.. helps us learn about undersea stuff...

but uh.. a-bomb... lol.. wtf would you need those...

using violence to obtain peace... that is really intresting... and so true... argh... i hate that ... cuz there are two opinions. and to make it peaceful with no arguments.... you force the other opinion out... so uh.... lol... treaty my ass.....

okay bye bye now... i really have nothing to contribute except



aznkid.....i made huby the judge.. MUHAHAHAH

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Posted by Tuffy on 07-20-2002 11:14 AM:

War is an endless waltz of war, "peace", and rebellion, to the sound of jealousy, hatred, and prejudice.


True peace must be won.........so it will never truly come.


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Posted by volcom strider on 07-30-2002 07:15 PM:

politics always instigated the wars, though i dont see any of those fat ass politicians in the dirt fighting what they're defending except their seat. wonder what happen to people like Martin Luther King and Ghandi. world is to fucking ignorant to see true and total pacifism.

Posted by Klumzy on 08-03-2002 04:22 PM:

Hubert said "but war is different. war is interesting. the best dont survive in war, the best are sent to the front lines and killed. while the weak and useless and disabled stay at the home front, so the weaker survive. the theory of survival of the fittest is completely reversed. "



not true at all... like someone said before, the smart ones stay home or are military leaders, not foot soldiers... being good with a gun don't necessarily mean you got good genes... the ones sent to the front lines are ussually "expendable"... the best are saved for last, even in war
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