Hmm...anyway, i'm just rather shocked by this.
Sure, i've thought about the useless posts that are in the forums, but i never would have dreamt of enacting a policy like this. This intellectual apartheid your trying to create all for the eventual utilitarian views of the administrator. It's repulsive, it really is. This seperation of members based on their intellectual standing is sickening. I don't care if it's garbage...no need to enforce inquisition on those who didn't even mean to cause . I'm going to start laughing when we start seeing negative post counts, cause this is really absurd. I know you had your reasons for posting and usually i let whatever you say go without directly confronting it, but this is really an interesting action you've decided to take.
The people you hope to attract through the elimination of the beauracracy is failing through your creation of a new one. The overtaking of the old farm only for the new animal farm to become exactly what they hoped to get rid of. People aren't going to want to come to a forum where they have to be "smart enough" based on whatever we perceive through their online postings. As victor said, this is really biased. This is sickening. Please, tell me how this isn't hypocritical. We're supposedly getting rid of the beaurocracy only to put up another one. Let's make it democratic, and deduct post counts so as to level everyone equally, and then gradually filter out everyone whose not as smart or whatever as everyone else based on their posts. The entire forum will be one big beaurocracy. What are you doing? The democratic idea could work, it's worked on forums like crossx.com and the like but their mods stay mods for as long as they want or until they get out of control or whatever. I think it'd be a hastle to have constant elections. Hm, but whatever you want.
Off your #1, i'm not really sure how this works with forums, as victor stated, like "random thoughts" or "personal/other pictures" and "artwork." Seriously, do you expect long circumlocuting posts just so we can get above 200 words? That's absurd, in teh cases of a picture, one liners are fine. I know what you mean when people write something really long and all they get in return is "wow, that is interesting" or soemthing like that. I've probably had this happen more than most people on this forum and i dont' take offense to it. As my ma' TM11 points out, it's not bad, it's not insulting so it's better than an offensive remark. I don't care, and if me, someone who this has happened to a lot doesn't care...how many others do? I'm sure i don't feel differently than everyone else. Different forums serve different purposes. PP and OP and random thoughts and artwork and reception and all those forums like that don't need 200+ words. I mean i've written large compositions in teh debate forum for no one to EVER respond (one thread comes to mind "masculine and feminine"). I'd rather have had someone say "interesitng" or something than nothing. I'm not really that discouraged cause i dont' care that much, but i don't think one liners are that bad. That's asking for too much, and asking for people to needlessly create long posts filled with nothing more than words repeating themselves just so they can appear long. Seriously though, do you realize how many complaints i get becasue of the size of my posts? People don't want to read it, they wont' and they just skip over it. Either that, or they assume i'm mad becuase i wrote so much. I would not need to put that message in my signature if this wasn't happening on this forum because i have to disclaim everytime i write a longer post. If people are like this then i dont' see how meaningful replies would be able to help attract people when peopl ejust want a place to get together and share ideas without reading a novel. Think realistically for a second, we have a lot of freshmen and a lot of younger kids on teh forum. I myself am only 18, probably as old as you, but people our age don't tend to want to come online and type novels for intellectual vigor. If you want an environment of high schoolers who want to do that, go to crossx.com, you'll find whatever you want there and more. This is a kpop forum, the mention of that doesn't really entail the words "intellectual vigor" in my mind, i don't see why it would attract it. A forum for that purpsoe would attract that audience, but what the image put out seems two faced in a way. We have a kpop forum, and then when poeple come to join they are immediately assessed and filtered in order to see if they reach the standards. These standards aren't realisitc. I like a lot of the shorter posters, like alex who posts are really contributive and i like what he brings to the forum. Will he be gone becuase he doesn't post 200+ words? I hope not, that'd be just stupid. But if it's what you want then ok. Or are we going to start deducting post counts until everyone gets into the negative range? haha. It'll scare more poeple than it will attract. Too authoritative if you ask me. We have a new elimination of the beaurocracy through democracy, adn then now we turn around and have a huge liberal aspect of the forum administration that goes and filters everything, like a huge censorship...ugh.
Off #2, i kind of all ready talked about this. But, it really doesn't discourage me that much and i'm sure a lot of people who post long posts like me and some others don't feel so discouraged. I don't think the forums will regress into a demented community either. I haven't left becuase of some of the one liners i get. It's nice to know people appreciate what i said, even if they didn't read it cause i really don't know hehe. But, granted people probably leave because of that...though i've really NEVER seen that happen on these forums EVER, and i've been here pretty much since the beginning.
Off #3, all right, i'm waiting for you in the debate and enlightenment forums. Bring it.
Off #4, don't care, i didn't bother reading it.
Off #5, i talked about that above somewhere in that jumbled mess
quote: (yes, im talking to you).
No you aren't. If you really are, tell me how. I don't think this applies to me.
quote: woa. this must be the longest post ever in these forums, save for the creative writing pieces
This really is offensive (yes, "the purpose of htis wasn't to offend" but well, you can't just disclaim and then say whatever you want cause then you'd make disclaimers have no worth by your abuse of them, i realize intent, but if you've read any of my posts (the ones that tend to be hmm really long) you'd realize how little i care about intent in regards to anything). Have you never been to the debate or enlightenment forum? How do you have the audacity to possibly say that after even clicking on ONE of those threads. There are plenty of posts longer than what you just posted. In face, there have been plenty that have gone OVER the character limit...hmm yes longer.
quote: we need an educated and somewhat mature forum population, something that at this moment, i am not too sure of. i am sorry if you may feel otherwise and am offended, but my conclusions are based upon the quality of the posts ive seen thus far
If we don't have it, let's filter out the underprivilidged who could be deemed mature enough, why not? Or we could just deduct post counts. This is getting out of hand...in all seriousness, I don't think we "need" one to make it work, it'll probably work right now.
Ugh, this is such a repulsive move. I can't believe you are advocating such a segregating move in order to actuate your own utilitarian views to be someday implemented of what the forums should be. As if you think this is some sort of deontological move you hvae to make...hey, deduct 100 posts off my next post. I really don't care. In other words, i don't see why you should be discouraged by my next reply. There are other real replies in this thread. It's not to up my post count, cause i dont' care.
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