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azn0monk
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Taiwanese > chinese or not?

this has been asked a lot, im chinese, and i have a lot of close taiwanese friends, but i see some taiwanese occassionally around like fuck those red communist chinese, and their women are whores.
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this has been asked a lot, im chinese, and i have a lot of close taiwanese friends, but i see some taiwanese occassionally around like fuck those red communist chinese, and their women are whores.
oookk -_-;;




i say they are they used to be part of china so their ancesters are chinese and they got some chinese up in there .. do they speak a diffrent language?

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well taiwnese gov is trying to make children learn taiwanese now over mandarin lol..

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well taiwnese gov is trying to make children learn taiwanese now over mandarin lol..


hmm i thought taiwan spoke mandarina and/or cantonese i didn't knoe they had their own language

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Interesting... I thought that the Taiwanese spoke mostly Mandarin, or a version of it...

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I think that saying Taiwanese people are greater than Chinese people might be offensive.

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quote:
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hmm i thought taiwan spoke mandarina and/or cantonese i didn't knoe they had their own language


yea.. same here.

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taiwanese is a dialect of chinese; as is cantonese and mandarin.

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most of my friends are chinese, cantonese, and taiwanese
last time I said "taiwanese chinese same thing" taiwanese friends were mad at me for it!! they were like yelling and omg... it was crazy after that... always "taiwanese is taiwanese"

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yeah taiwanese ppl get pissy pissy when they are referred as "chinese." well in my opinion, taiwanese ppl ARE chinese. for ex: i was born in singapore. but singapore is a COUNTRY. i'm singaporean BECUZ i was born in singapore. but i am STILL chinese becuz of where my ancestors came from, etc etc etc. dunno if i make sense.... but newayz, taiwanese ppl in my opinion are chinese. we speak the same language, except taiwanese. and taiwanese is still a dialect of chinese.

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im taiwanese. i dont mind calling myself chinese but i dont really want the person to think i came from china, so i say im from taiwan.

i grew up in a family that doesnt really like china though so i sorta got influenced. well anyones. i dont make snes now so imma go.~ baibaiiaibaibiaibaibiaial.

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usually taiwanese who was born in u.s. they don't really care... but taiwanese from taiwan they get pissed off about it... eh...

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taiwanese kids get pissed off because of what their parents told them about the chinese people from mainland.
the ones who live in more rural places are very rude and such
but the ones who live near more populated areas arent like the big cities.

theres more i can say and be more clear but im too lazy rite now..back to d2 b4 marv kills me

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quote:
Originally posted by UnisMuiMui
yeah taiwanese ppl get pissy pissy when they are referred as "chinese." well in my opinion, taiwanese ppl ARE chinese. for ex: i was born in singapore. but singapore is a COUNTRY. i'm singaporean BECUZ i was born in singapore. but i am STILL chinese becuz of where my ancestors came from, etc etc etc. dunno if i make sense.... but newayz, taiwanese ppl in my opinion are chinese. we speak the same language, except taiwanese. and taiwanese is still a dialect of chinese.


exactly.

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Originally posted by UnisMuiMui
yeah taiwanese ppl get pissy pissy when they are referred as "chinese." well in my opinion, taiwanese ppl ARE chinese. for ex: i was born in singapore. but singapore is a COUNTRY. i'm singaporean BECUZ i was born in singapore. but i am STILL chinese becuz of where my ancestors came from, etc etc etc. dunno if i make sense.... but newayz, taiwanese ppl in my opinion are chinese. we speak the same language, except taiwanese. and taiwanese is still a dialect of chinese.


i think it's rude to refer to them as chinese people. By doing so, you are effectually not recognizing their country as legitamate, and not acknowledging its sovereignty. Should we call white people (assuming proper descent) who are in teh United States English then? Of course not, if they were born here then they are American, the same goes with taiwan. It doesn't matter where they came from, if they are part of a different country....just call them by their ACTUAL nationality. Not some derivative. It's insulting i think. They may be chinese by ancestry, but they sure aren't now. I can see why they would get pissed by people calling them chinese, because that word doesn't just entail a race, it entails a nationality with it...and Taiwan is not china. Simple as that.

So, are we all African then? I mean, our ancestors probably were from there.

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hmm, interesting... if they want to be known as different than chinese, let them... I mean, they're from Taiwan... etc etc... so why not?

just like when other asian races get called chinese and are offended or sick of it... refer back to the thread that someone started called "being called chinese" or something like that...

My post is not intended to be mean in any way and if I offended someone, I'm seriously, absolutely sorrie

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i think it's rude to refer to them as chinese people. By doing so, you are effectually not recognizing their country as legitamate, and not acknowledging its sovereignty.


I believe that was the point of her post. Taiwanese should be refered to as "taiwanese" because that is their nationality. However their ethnicity (for a large part of the population) remains chinese.

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I believe that was the point of her post. Taiwanese should be refered to as "taiwanese" because that is their nationality. However their ethnicity (for a large part of the population) remains chinese.


yes dats wat i meant, thank u. simple as dat.

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